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		<title>Comment on boon of the unexpected by Elvish</title>
		<link>http://www.seretogis.org/2008/06/15/boon-of-the-unexpected/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Elvish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations

/proud

etc.

&#60;3 :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations</p>
<p>/proud</p>
<p>etc.</p>
<p>&lt;3 <img src='http://www.seretogis.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on boon of the unexpected by TS Divine</title>
		<link>http://www.seretogis.org/2008/06/15/boon-of-the-unexpected/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>TS Divine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem hon!

-D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem hon!</p>
<p>-D.</p>
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		<title>Comment on siff: otto; or, up with dead people by Elvish</title>
		<link>http://www.seretogis.org/2008/06/07/siff-otto-or-up-with-dead-people/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Elvish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe mixing in an orgy is precisely what I need in order to withstand zombie cinema?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe mixing in an orgy is precisely what I need in order to withstand zombie cinema?</p>
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		<title>Comment on United [censored] of America by seretogis</title>
		<link>http://www.seretogis.org/2008/02/29/united-censored-of-america/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>seretogis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why, hello there!  Long time no see, sir.

No state may violate the US Constitution.  The examples you provide (with the exception of the environmental policies one, which really is covered by NIMBY) all violate various articles and could (and should) be taken up in State, then Federal court.  We do have proper process for righting those wrongs, and it should be followed rather than drafting Federal legislation and executive orders for the sake of speediness.

Education is certainly majority-funded by individual states, but the Feds still chip in 10% of the cost and use that money to bribe states into adhering to its standards.  Meaning, to lower their standards of achievement to qualify for Federal money as is the case with NCLB.  Also thanks to NCLB, we are guaranteed military recruiters in public schools, ready to recruit more stupid kids with promises of YouTube notoriety by killing puppies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why, hello there!  Long time no see, sir.</p>
<p>No state may violate the US Constitution.  The examples you provide (with the exception of the environmental policies one, which really is covered by NIMBY) all violate various articles and could (and should) be taken up in State, then Federal court.  We do have proper process for righting those wrongs, and it should be followed rather than drafting Federal legislation and executive orders for the sake of speediness.</p>
<p>Education is certainly majority-funded by individual states, but the Feds still chip in 10% of the cost and use that money to bribe states into adhering to its standards.  Meaning, to lower their standards of achievement to qualify for Federal money as is the case with NCLB.  Also thanks to NCLB, we are guaranteed military recruiters in public schools, ready to recruit more stupid kids with promises of YouTube notoriety by killing puppies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on United [censored] of America by lolife</title>
		<link>http://www.seretogis.org/2008/02/29/united-censored-of-america/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>lolife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 05:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm...I dunno. I agree the federal government does too much of the wrong stuff but I think they should do more of the right stuff better. States with criminalized abortion, systematic discrimination against same-sex couples, heinous environmental policies and theocratic tendencies ...these things affect us all.

Ideally government should be as local as possible but there are certain rights (and responsibilities) that citizens at every address should enjoy.

You mention education... I like to remind people that free K-12 education is mandated by the state constitution in every single state in the union. It is not a federal mandate. It's a &lt;em&gt;wonderful&lt;/em&gt; mandate. But it came from the States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;I dunno. I agree the federal government does too much of the wrong stuff but I think they should do more of the right stuff better. States with criminalized abortion, systematic discrimination against same-sex couples, heinous environmental policies and theocratic tendencies &#8230;these things affect us all.</p>
<p>Ideally government should be as local as possible but there are certain rights (and responsibilities) that citizens at every address should enjoy.</p>
<p>You mention education&#8230; I like to remind people that free K-12 education is mandated by the state constitution in every single state in the union. It is not a federal mandate. It&#8217;s a <em>wonderful</em> mandate. But it came from the States.</p>
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		<title>Comment on sexual tension by grid</title>
		<link>http://www.seretogis.org/2008/03/04/sexual-tension/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>grid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with this post. I think there are many reasons we don't often see bi men who sleep with women on the side. As a bi man, i have often felt it's "easier" to sleep with men. Certainly (&lt;em&gt;especially&lt;/em&gt;) in a casual sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with this post. I think there are many reasons we don&#8217;t often see bi men who sleep with women on the side. As a bi man, i have often felt it&#8217;s &#8220;easier&#8221; to sleep with men. Certainly (<em>especially</em>) in a casual sense.</p>
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		<title>Comment on sexual tension, part II by nature of self and stereotypes at livingtech</title>
		<link>http://www.seretogis.org/2008/03/04/sexual-tension-part-ii/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>nature of self and stereotypes at livingtech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has written an incredibly well thought-out blog post about stereotypes, and I ended up writing quite a bit in the comments. You should follow the link above and read his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] has written an incredibly well thought-out blog post about stereotypes, and I ended up writing quite a bit in the comments. You should follow the link above and read his [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on sexual tension, part II by grid</title>
		<link>http://www.seretogis.org/2008/03/04/sexual-tension-part-ii/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>grid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It occurs to me I didn't really address how this all relates to the homosexual stereotype. I guess I think that there is a probably a difference between a stereotype as self-defined and a stereotype as used to define "other" groups of people. I think the important part of the definition of stereotype is that of an oversimplification, or generalization, regardless of whether you have personal experience with that group. 

I think that our &lt;em&gt;negative stereotypes&lt;/em&gt; are probably (ridiculously) set in stone. Every time we meet someone gay, we should be updating that model (stereotype) of what we think it means to be gay. Enough exposure, and the stereotype should break down as you realize that "gay people are just like everybody else!". Of course it's possible for this to happen, but somehow, that stereotype is often still there, and you either think of the people you've met as the exception, or maybe you think that the negative stereotype is the exception. Does this mean it's not useful (or even harmful) to generalize about gay people, ie stereotype them? Possibly. I don't really know anymore. I would have said no just a few minutes ago, but now I'm not sure.

Interestingly, you yourself are talking about stereotypical homosexual men in quite a negative light. I wonder if you met enough gay men who didn't adhere to that stereotype if you would have written this post differently? I would be interested in reading more about what you consider to be the standard traits of "stereotypical gay men". I'd also be willing to bet money that I know quite a few who do not fit the profile...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It occurs to me I didn&#8217;t really address how this all relates to the homosexual stereotype. I guess I think that there is a probably a difference between a stereotype as self-defined and a stereotype as used to define &#8220;other&#8221; groups of people. I think the important part of the definition of stereotype is that of an oversimplification, or generalization, regardless of whether you have personal experience with that group. </p>
<p>I think that our <em>negative stereotypes</em> are probably (ridiculously) set in stone. Every time we meet someone gay, we should be updating that model (stereotype) of what we think it means to be gay. Enough exposure, and the stereotype should break down as you realize that &#8220;gay people are just like everybody else!&#8221;. Of course it&#8217;s possible for this to happen, but somehow, that stereotype is often still there, and you either think of the people you&#8217;ve met as the exception, or maybe you think that the negative stereotype is the exception. Does this mean it&#8217;s not useful (or even harmful) to generalize about gay people, ie stereotype them? Possibly. I don&#8217;t really know anymore. I would have said no just a few minutes ago, but now I&#8217;m not sure.</p>
<p>Interestingly, you yourself are talking about stereotypical homosexual men in quite a negative light. I wonder if you met enough gay men who didn&#8217;t adhere to that stereotype if you would have written this post differently? I would be interested in reading more about what you consider to be the standard traits of &#8220;stereotypical gay men&#8221;. I&#8217;d also be willing to bet money that I know quite a few who do not fit the profile&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on sexual tension, part II by grid</title>
		<link>http://www.seretogis.org/2008/03/04/sexual-tension-part-ii/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>grid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incredibly well said. You've obviously thought about this quite a bit. I especially like your last point because it really made me step back and think about my own opinions on the topic of self. I have undoubtedly said things that are very similar (in spirit) to Patrick's last quote, and wholeheartedly meant them at the time. In retrospect, what I probably &lt;em&gt;meant&lt;/em&gt; was something much more along the lines of "who cares what other people think of you, as long as you're happy?", or "make decisions based on what you yourself desire."

I personally don't put so much weight on whether something is stereotypical or not. I think there are probably stereotypes that are not actually wholly negative. (I can think of several examples, but because I don't personally belong to them, it feels wrong for me to use them as examples.) Ah! Maybe a good example is the "geek" stereotype. Clearly there are those who think geekdom is totally stupid, but of course I completely disagree. And I think it would be silly for me (or you) to make decisions -- any decisions -- based on the perception of that stereotype by you, or anyone else.

All this is not to say we shouldn't be aware of stereotypes when we make decisions about ourselves. And that, I think, is the point of what you are getting at. Everything we do informs opinions of our "self", both the opinion that we have of ourselves, and also the opinions others have of our "selves". We should attempt to be conscious of those opinions, both to try and be the person we &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; to be intellectually, and also to try to minimize the damage we do to other individuals in our society. (My opinions about how we cannot really avoid damaging other individuals, and how we can really only do our best to avoid that damage are probably subject enough for another blog post entirely.) Anyway, self-consciousness is key. Self-awareness, and a constant attempt to improve our own self-worth. Of course, too much self-awareness borders on self-obsession and narcissism, but I think that's part of being a poet... and probably part of being an intellectual. (Note that I'm proud to be associated with both of these stereotypes, for better or worse.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incredibly well said. You&#8217;ve obviously thought about this quite a bit. I especially like your last point because it really made me step back and think about my own opinions on the topic of self. I have undoubtedly said things that are very similar (in spirit) to Patrick&#8217;s last quote, and wholeheartedly meant them at the time. In retrospect, what I probably <em>meant</em> was something much more along the lines of &#8220;who cares what other people think of you, as long as you&#8217;re happy?&#8221;, or &#8220;make decisions based on what you yourself desire.&#8221;</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t put so much weight on whether something is stereotypical or not. I think there are probably stereotypes that are not actually wholly negative. (I can think of several examples, but because I don&#8217;t personally belong to them, it feels wrong for me to use them as examples.) Ah! Maybe a good example is the &#8220;geek&#8221; stereotype. Clearly there are those who think geekdom is totally stupid, but of course I completely disagree. And I think it would be silly for me (or you) to make decisions &#8212; any decisions &#8212; based on the perception of that stereotype by you, or anyone else.</p>
<p>All this is not to say we shouldn&#8217;t be aware of stereotypes when we make decisions about ourselves. And that, I think, is the point of what you are getting at. Everything we do informs opinions of our &#8220;self&#8221;, both the opinion that we have of ourselves, and also the opinions others have of our &#8220;selves&#8221;. We should attempt to be conscious of those opinions, both to try and be the person we <em>want</em> to be intellectually, and also to try to minimize the damage we do to other individuals in our society. (My opinions about how we cannot really avoid damaging other individuals, and how we can really only do our best to avoid that damage are probably subject enough for another blog post entirely.) Anyway, self-consciousness is key. Self-awareness, and a constant attempt to improve our own self-worth. Of course, too much self-awareness borders on self-obsession and narcissism, but I think that&#8217;s part of being a poet&#8230; and probably part of being an intellectual. (Note that I&#8217;m proud to be associated with both of these stereotypes, for better or worse.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on game over man, game over! by akito</title>
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		<dc:creator>akito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this game for sale at a hobby store I went to a couple of weeks ago.  Looked intriguing alongside the WoW board game, but something didn't feel right about the thought of purchasing it.  So I didn't.  I'm happy about my choice, because as heavy as the box was and everything I saw on the back, I don't have nearly enough time in my day/night-life to devote to a board game when I can just go on battle.net.  Good for you for giving it a shot though.  I might if someone else owns it, but I don't think anyone I know actually owns it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this game for sale at a hobby store I went to a couple of weeks ago.  Looked intriguing alongside the WoW board game, but something didn&#8217;t feel right about the thought of purchasing it.  So I didn&#8217;t.  I&#8217;m happy about my choice, because as heavy as the box was and everything I saw on the back, I don&#8217;t have nearly enough time in my day/night-life to devote to a board game when I can just go on battle.net.  Good for you for giving it a shot though.  I might if someone else owns it, but I don&#8217;t think anyone I know actually owns it.</p>
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